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      08-23-2015, 01:50 AM   #67
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It's quickly getting left behind by new flashers like MHD that are taking advantage of new table discovery in the DME. It's highly unlikely Cobb will offer these as they said a long time ago they had no further interest in further BMW development.
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      08-25-2015, 04:27 PM   #69
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We strapped the car to the dyno one more time this morning.

Reminder: This is an auto trans car, running e50 + meth, and stg1 inline LPFP!

First three runs were:

file_18 - Map3 add 70 - 601whp
file_19 - Map6 28psi to redline - 657whp
file_20 - Map6 30psi to redline - 679whp



We then bumped boost to 30.9 for a few runs, messed with duty bias a bit. Here's all the runs together:



Also, here's a log from another N54 PURE Stg2 car showing spool. AT car in 4th gear, stock inlets. Hits target at 3293 rpm. I don't want to hear another word about spool!!!


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putting down some solid numbers. I suspect these pure stage 2's and the new hexon 550's will be making a lot of sales especially with the AT cars including myself as the torque comes in gradually. I thought the stage 1 pump was only good for 500whp or so. what do you think you would put down without meth?
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putting down some solid numbers. I suspect these pure stage 2's and the new hexon 550's will be making a lot of sales especially with the AT cars including myself as the torque comes in gradually. I thought the stage 1 pump was only good for 500whp or so. what do you think you would put down without meth?
Probably around 600rw before the fuel pumps started taking a shit. I also didn't know stage 1 lpfp could handle this much power
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Nice numbers i need those on my IS
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      08-25-2015, 06:01 PM   #73
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Nice numbers i need those on my IS
These turbo's would be nasty on your IS. Can't beat a N54 with a DCT and 650+whp!
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These turbo's would be nasty on your IS. Can't beat a N54 with a DCT and 650+whp!
Yep. As soon as mine our made, I will get them on my Z4 with DCT. Should make a fast combination.
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Yep. As soon as mine our made, I will get them on my Z4 with DCT. Should make a fast combination.
Your car with just 500rw would be damn fast. 600+ will be
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Terry, dyno tune my car He started out on low boost (20psi lol) and hit low 500whp which I was already smiling about.
Could you post or PM me the low boost run and log if you still have it?
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Could you post or PM me the low boost run and log if you still have it?
Download the zip file and it contains each run from the dyno chart.
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Nice numbers i need those on my IS
I'm feeling ya there! Are you going to 1/2 mile in November at sulfur springs?
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I'm feeling ya there! Are you going to 1/2 mile in November at sulfur springs?
Hopefully if I can make it, what about you?
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I decided to go online and look up the prices for RB and VTT:

RB $3850 (billet wheel, turbine clipping and thrust upgrade, $300 for core)
VTT Stage 2 $3269 (upgraded billet 6x6 compressor)
VTT Stage 2+ $4196 (clipped turbines, upgraded billet 20T compressor)

You guys can't just look at the base price as if that's the final price. Plus PURE doesn't have a 3+ month waiting list.
Did the same thing, but got different numbers. I removed VTT stage 2+ since it's not fair to compare them with a typical stage 2 kit.

Suggested Retail Prices with the same options above.(without shipping)
VTT Stage 2 $2874 + Core
RB $3500 + Core, $3350 + Core without clipping
Pure Stage 2 $3900 + Core
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I decided to go online and look up the prices for RB and VTT:

RB $3850 (billet wheel, turbine clipping and thrust upgrade, $300 for core)
VTT Stage 2 $3269 (upgraded billet 6x6 compressor)
VTT Stage 2+ $4196 (clipped turbines, upgraded billet 20T compressor)

You guys can't just look at the base price as if that's the final price. Plus PURE doesn't have a 3+ month waiting list.
Did the same thing, but got different numbers. I removed VTT stage 2+ since it's not fair to compare them with a typical stage 2 kit.

Suggested Retail Prices with the same options above.(without shipping)
VTT Stage 2 $2874 + Core
RB $3500 + Core, $3350 + Core without clipping
Pure Stage 2 $3900 + Core
Why is it not fair to compare the stage 2 + . Pure won't release their wheel size . No doubt in my mind they have larger than a 15t wheel in there
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Why is it not fair to compare the stage 2 + .
Even though they all use TD04 wheels and thrust, the power range of the VVT Stage 2 and RBs isn't comparable with VTT stage 2+. If Pure turbos are suppose to be Stage 2+ competitor, than we shouldn't compare them to VVT Stage 2 and RBs. Just my opinion.
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Why is it not fair to compare the stage 2 + .
Even though they all use TD04 wheels and thrust, the power range of the VVT Stage 2 and RBs isn't comparable with VTT stage 2+. If Pure turbos are suppose to be Stage 2+ competitor, than we shouldn't compare them to VVT Stage 2 and RBs. Just my opinion.
Yea I get that but you are comparing the pure stage 2 to rbs and vtt stage 2.
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Did the same thing, but got different numbers. I removed VTT stage 2+ since it's not fair to compare them with a typical stage 2 kit.

Suggested Retail Prices with the same options above.(without shipping)
VTT Stage 2 $2874 + Core
RB $3500 + Core, $3350 + Core without clipping
Pure Stage 2 $3900 + Core
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Yea I get that but you are comparing the pure stage 2 to rbs and vtt stage 2.
Only price wise considering they are label stage 2 . Vargas Stage 2+ would be $3800 + core if that'll make everyone happy. That's with the clipped T20 wheel.
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Our $3900 offering is intended to compete with the "stg2 super plus evo pure killa v2.1 EK PK+" turbos out there

The 680whp results were easy to hit. Strap down an AT car with a meth kit. Turn it up to 30psi, bingo! 680whp. There was no extensive tweaking.

These other guys that are getting close to 700 with their Port Injection MT cars, literally have the car sitting on the dyno, tweaking and tuning over and over to try and squeeze this power out. Which means their customers are going to have a hard time reaching those levels without all the same tweaking and tuning.

Our turbos always come fully optioned. If you check the competitors pricing, click all the options to compare with our turbos, theirs come in at $4000-$4400.
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Our $3900 offering is intended to compete with the "stg2 super plus evo pure killa v2.1 EK PK+" turbos out there

The 680whp results were easy to hit. Strap down an AT car with a meth kit. Turn it up to 30psi, bingo! 680whp. There was no extensive tweaking.

These other guys that are getting close to 700 with their Port Injection MT cars, literally have the car sitting on the dyno, tweaking and tuning over and over to try and squeeze this power out. Which means their customers are going to have a hard time reaching those levels without all the same tweaking and tuning.

Our turbos always come fully optioned. If you check the competitors pricing, click all the options to compare with our turbos, theirs come in at $4000-$4400.
So when are these planned to go up on your website for sale?
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So when are these planned to go up on your website for sale?
Very soon. We are about ready.
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Our $3900 offering is intended to compete with the "stg2 super plus evo pure killa v2.1 EK PK+" turbos out there

The 680whp results were easy to hit. Strap down an AT car with a meth kit. Turn it up to 30psi, bingo! 680whp. There was no extensive tweaking.

Our turbos always come fully optioned. If you check the competitors pricing, click all the options to compare with our turbos, theirs come in at $4000-$4400.
Straight from the horse's mouth. The EK will be over $4,600 since you MUST get them ceramic coated. In this perspective, your kit have a great price. Thanks for the clarity.
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