Pathetic V2 dyno results!!!!!!

sflgator · 01-21-2008, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadyg

I changed my oil @ 5k, which was too long IMO.

I agree (as I used to change my oil & filter every 5k too), but on a 2 1/2 yr. lease, I just let BMW pay for my oil changes 1x/year.

boosted · 01-21-2008, 08:19 PM

Another point I forgot to add was after the oil change/dyno with SAE and STD conversion, try running on the track and get DR (Nitto 555R, BFG g-force, MT). Numbers are just numbers and for braggin rights

. The most important thing is how fast you run including 60' time and both 1/8 and 1/4 trap speed. If you don't have drag experience I suggest to practice with burn outs. You really need to fry your rear tires to hook up - DR or slicks that is but never street tires

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E90ice · 01-21-2008, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by boosted

Another point I forgot to add was after the oil change/dyno with SAE and STD conversion, try running on the track and get DR (Nitto 555R, BFG g-force, MT). Numbers are just numbers and for braggin rights

. The most important thing is how fast you run including 60' time and both 1/8 and 1/4 trap speed. If you don't have drag experience I suggest to practice with burn outs. You really need to fry your rear tires to hook up - DR or slicks that is but never street tires

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I'll try the track when it opens. Last time stock with v1.47 and 2.0 60 foot i ran 13.0 @ 107 mph.
Curious to see what I could pull off now.

E90ice · 01-21-2008, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sflgator

I agree (as I used to change my oil & filter every 5k too), but on a 2 1/2 yr. lease, I just let BMW pay for my oil changes 1x/year.

Gator, my oil was apparently due at 15k miles.

I tried earlier and BMW denied it.

I simply forgot about it, because the car never asked for it. Now, when I check the control check messages, it tells me than I'm 3k miles over-due.

Seattle135is · 01-21-2008, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by E90ice

Try no more than 330whp.
I think it was all marketing business fron Vishnu. Personally, I'm disapointed. All the dynos fron Shiv show 36x whp (with intake) and me and my friends barely hit 330whp.

Dude - thats an unfair statement - what makes you think its not the Magnaflow thats retarding the performance? - my numbers were right on the number, even with gas in the PNW...to actually 'blame' a certain component, you would need to baseline back to stock, then dyno after each mod...so I would change your post to 'Pathetic dyno results after various mods'

Bubbles · 01-21-2008, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by E90ice

Gator, my oil was apparently due at 15k miles.

I tried earlier and BMW denied it.

I simply forgot about it, because the car never asked for it. Now, when I check the control check messages, it tells me than I'm 3k miles over-due.

E90ice, just a heads-up. If you do not keep up with the maintenance schedule (oil changes etc), the dealer/BMW may attempt to void your warranty if a failure occurs at a later date. This post is just an FYI.

Bubbles · 01-21-2008, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sflgator

I agree (as I used to change my oil & filter every 5k too), but on a 2 1/2 yr. lease, I just let BMW pay for my oil changes 1x/year.

Yet just another reason why NEVER to buy a used E90/E92 turbo!!

stillclaimndp · 01-21-2008, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattle335

Dude - thats an unfair statement - what makes you think its not the Magnaflow thats retarding the performance? - my numbers were right on the number, even with gas in the PNW...to actually 'blame' a certain component, you would need to baseline back to stock, then dyno after each mod...so I would change your post to 'Pathetic dyno results after various mods'

LOL +1 ....but minus the "pathetic dyno results" part because they are fine... your concern should definitely be more that your car with exhaust and v2 did less power than the other v2 cars without exhaust... it's all about comparison. You guys had 3 cars dyno within 4hp of each other, pretty good chance that piggyback is doing an excellent job. You would need stock dynos, jsb2h dynos, dinan dynos all on the same dyno in order to translate these numbers to the "dynojet performance" brand #'s we usually see on here.

E90ice · 01-21-2008, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattle335

Dude - thats an unfair statement - what makes you think its not the Magnaflow thats retarding the performance? - my numbers were right on the number, even with gas in the PNW...to actually 'blame' a certain component, you would need to baseline back to stock, then dyno after each mod...so I would change your post to 'Pathetic dyno results after various mods'

OK. so i guess Karthik and Lance also had some pathetic mods that they did not disclose.

dimmmi · 01-21-2008, 08:51 PM

Well I change the synthetic on my S2K every 5000 kms and it comes out black, although I can see its still good. I doubt my engine would be alive after 29000km on the same oil.

I'm still waiting for the 335xi to get here but don't some of you guys also change your own oil? I mean here in Canada a 5L (~5quarts) jug of synthetic is $30, so it must be cheaper for you guys.

I would take a close look at the engine because after 29000kms on the same oil I suspect some components could be damaged. Good Luck!

cn555ic · 01-21-2008, 08:55 PM

That what makes me laugh about BMW oil changes of 15,000 mile increments...How are the people that buy the cars later on after leases are up going to be effected...They are going to buy a piece of crap because of all the inherent wear and tear of the motor because oil is the lifeline of an engine, and its deprived of fresh oil because BMW is cheap.

Bubbles · 01-21-2008, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by cn555ic

That what makes me laugh about BMW oil changes of 15,000 mile increments...How are the people that buy the cars later on after leases are up going to be effected...They are going to buy a piece of crap because of all the inherent wear and tear of the motor because oil is the lifeline of an engine, and its deprived of fresh oil because BMW is cheap.

+1, I wonder if BMW factored this in? N/A BMWs seem to last forever, I wonder if we will see theses turbo motors with 100k miles?

ArmyBimmerDude · 01-21-2008, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadyg

+1, I wonder if BMW factored this in? N/A BMWs seem to last forever, I wonder if we will see theses turbo motors with 100k miles?

There are plenty of turbo'd cars out there rolling with the same turbos at 100k+

cn555ic · 01-21-2008, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadyg

+1, I wonder if BMW factored this in? N/A BMWs seem to last forever, I wonder if we will see theses turbo motors with 100k miles?

Maybe with the naturally aspirated motors, but the turbo need clean oil there is no way it will last to 100K base on 15,000 mile oil changes...They need to reconfigure for turbo engines.

cn555ic · 01-21-2008, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ArmyBimmerDude

There are plenty of turbo'd cars out there rolling with the same turbos at 100k+

yeah granted that the oil is changed every 3 to 5 thousand miles!!!

Bubbles · 01-21-2008, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ArmyBimmerDude

There are plenty of turbo'd cars out there rolling with the same turbos at 100k+

Sure, but with 15k intervals?

Seattle135is · 01-21-2008, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by E90ice

OK. so i guess Karthik and Lance also had some pathetic mods that they did not disclose.

But they are not

seriously take out that exhaust and lets re-dyno...

E90ice · 01-21-2008, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattle335

But they are not

seriously take out that exhaust and lets re-dyno...

Exactly my point. They are STOCK and dynoed as much as I did (+4whp). So I doubt my mods had anything to do with it. My car has more power loss due to the AT. I'm thinking my exhaust compensated...thats why I dynoed as much as Karthik and Lance (-4whp).

I will get an oil change on Wed, unplug the battery and let PROcede V2 re-adapt, drive it hard...and then you are welcome to join me for another dyno.

Hopefully they guys at Carb Connect will be nice enough to let us dyno cheap and buy them a couple of drinks.

sflgator · 01-21-2008, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by E90ice

I will get an oil change on Wed, unplug the battery and let PROcede V2 re-adapt, drive it hard...and then you are welcome to join me for another dyno.

I bet you will dyno higher.

K335i · 01-21-2008, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by E90ice

Exactly my point. They are STOCK and dynoed as much as I did (+4whp). So I doubt my mods had anything to do with it. My car has more power loss due to the AT. I'm thinking my exhaust compensated...thats why I dynoed as much as Karthik and Lance (-4whp).

I will get an oil change on Wed, unplug the battery and let PROcede V2 re-adapt, drive it hard...and then you are welcome to join me for another dyno.

Hopefully they guys at Carb Connect will be nice enough to let us dyno cheap and buy them a couple of drinks.

I think the only differentiating factor was that I was at 90%, though I think our boost levels were pretty close so it may not matter. I'd be curious to bump it up and try again, and do some datalogs while we're at it.

Sniz · 01-21-2008, 11:14 PM

man I cant believe you havent changed your oil but your willing to spend thousands on mods!! Common sense man!

Hope you see some better numbers w/ the new dyno.

E90ice · 01-22-2008, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Sniz

man I cant believe you havent changed your oil but your willing to spend thousands on mods!! Common sense man!

Hope you see some better numbers w/ the new dyno.

I only did what BMW told me to do. And that was: "Sir, please come back when your car asks for an oil change!".

I have an exhaust and V2...I didn't spent "thousands" on mods.

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dimmmi New Member 0 Rep 15 Posts Drives: 335xi, S2000 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Calgary, AB iTrader: (0)	Well I change the synthetic on my S2K every 5000 kms and it comes out black, although I can see its still good. I doubt my engine would be alive after 29000km on the same oil. I'm still waiting for the 335xi to get here but don't some of you guys also change your own oil? I mean here in Canada a 5L (~5quarts) jug of synthetic is $30, so it must be cheaper for you guys. I would take a close look at the engine because after 29000kms on the same oil I suspect some components could be damaged. Good Luck!
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