V3.1 User Adjustables Documentation and Update

BlueLion · 10-11-2008, 10:50 AM

its a free update, just be patient....i would rather wait for it to be tested to work. I would be upset if a free update didnt work or gave me problems

phattbam · 10-11-2008, 12:49 PM

I'm not trying to be an ass here, but at least Shiv gave us a little info that he and the team are working on a new software update. He could have just dropped the bomb on us and released it when it's done. But instead he wanted to keep us up to date with his work. I'm just as anxious as everyone else but when you keep badgering the guy and expect that to speed things up, it's really slowing him down as he replies to the threads and works on tinkering the bugs out of the maps and such. Just think if he never mentioned V3.1 would we have 6 pages of "where is it?" "today's wednesday it's now friday, saturday" come on now. just relax and it'll be out sooner than later. He's listening to our opinions and suggestions, he's adding more options to our maps be greatful for that.

/end rant[flame suit on]

rwalker · 10-11-2008, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Guys,
I said that i hope to have everything ready by wednesday. Turns out that isn't possible. Might be another few days.

We can speed up user software development by making it a revenue generator for us. Right now, it's not. We do it as a free upgrade. If you guys don't mind paying a nominal fee for this stuff, we can certainly put someone full time on it and have new updates/features every week. Let us get this update out and then we can discuss options with respect to future software development.

And by software development, I'm not talking about maps. They will always be free. Nothing to worry about there.

Shiv

Could you publish the PROcede interface and open-source the PC software, or does your license with the hardware vendor preclude it?

The issues people have had in the past with disconnects on Vista (and in some cases even XP) would likely be trivial to fix with enough eyes (as with all software).

If you published (and stuck to) an interface for the PROcede, you might also have Apple developers (including iPhone and iPod touch) coming out of the woodwork.

-Rob

ala012 · 10-11-2008, 11:03 PM

Gosh...

BE PATIENT !

phattbam · 10-12-2008, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ala012

Gosh...

BE PATIENT !

yup. plain and simple.

Tuned335i · 10-12-2008, 02:18 AM

Jesus. Some of you people act like waiting for updates is the primary driving force in your life. Have you got so little going on in your lives that you live and die by whether Shiv gets the new update out on exactly the date he was hoping for? It sure seems like it from some of your posts.

I don't know about you guys, but with everything else going on in the world right now, waiting for an upgrade to make my $50K toy even more fun to play with is pretty insignificant in the grand scheme of things.

NM_BMW · 10-13-2008, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Guys,
I said that i hope to have everything ready by wednesday. Turns out that isn't possible. Might be another few days.

We can speed up user software development by making it a revenue generator for us. Right now, it's not. We do it as a free upgrade. If you guys don't mind paying a nominal fee for this stuff, we can certainly put someone full time on it and have new updates/features every week. Let us get this update out and then we can discuss options with respect to future software development.

And by software development, I'm not talking about maps. They will always be free. Nothing to worry about there.

Shiv

I vote to keep it free. No rush on trying to get software out, I have no problem as I'm sure others do with waiting on the software to be completed. Thanks for all your hard work buddy.

v2bling · 10-13-2008, 12:33 AM

Make It Mac Compatible Please !!!

tek818 · 10-13-2008, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by v2bling

Make It Mac Compatible Please !!!

not going to happen. just installed parallels desktop and xp on your mac

Tuned335i · 10-13-2008, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by tek818

not going to happen. just installed parallels desktop and xp on your mac

LOL yeah every time I am up for a new laptop I keep telling myself that I'm gonna buy a PowerBook. Never seems to happen that way though

rdsport323 · 10-13-2008, 07:50 AM

With all those user adjustables, aren't you taking a big risk by entrusting your customers to be able to use proper values? I can imagine the customer service nightmare if one person puts a 99 in a box instead of a 9, and all hell breaks loose, or did you guys build a fail-safe option where you can't go above a pre-selected max/min?...

What if someone enters max values for all the adjustables, and then a month later his car blows up... As great as having the option to set your own values, I would simply just trust the tuners values and be happy with it.

cn555ic · 10-13-2008, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by rdsport323

With all those user adjustables, aren't you taking a big risk by entrusting your customers to be able to use proper values? I can imagine the customer service nightmare if one person puts a 99 in a box instead of a 9, and all hell breaks loose, or did you guys build a fail-safe option where you can't go above a pre-selected max/min?...

What if someone enters max values for all the adjustables, and then a month later his car blows up... As great as having the option to set your own values, I would simply just trust the tuners values and be happy with it.

even if the Op messes up, the Procede has a safe mode where if the boost exceeds 16.5 it goes into valet mode, so it would be pretty impossible for anyone to blow up thier cars!

phattbam · 10-13-2008, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by cn555ic

it would be pretty impossible for anyone to blow up thier cars!

never say never, I'm sure someone will find a way.

Kbueno · 10-13-2008, 12:02 PM

Shiv has indicated he has made it idiot-proof, but the proof is in the pudding.

rismo · 10-13-2008, 12:29 PM

keep it free.... and guys let Shiv do his work! He did a great job sofar.... He is helpfull and sometimes you just need some more time to do a good job....
My porsche friends are heavily annoyed with him ;-)

Tuned335i · 10-13-2008, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 335lvr

Shiv has indicated he has made it idiot-proof, but the proof is in the pudding.

I am sure there are some idiots on this forum who will do their best to hose it up and throw codes. This isn't inherently bad, until they start blaming it on some non-existent deficiency in the PROcede product.

The people who choose to go the extreme route know what they're getting into. At least they can't complain about a lack of features...

cn555ic · 10-13-2008, 02:13 PM

its has definately been nice finally to see less and less post about Vishnu having problems...Now the trolls can only chime in and bash only the price of the Procede!!!

phattbam · 10-13-2008, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cn555ic

its has definately been nice finally to see less and less post about Vishnu having problems...Now the trolls can only chime in and bash only the price of the Procede!!!

I guess it's the price you pay for a product that keeps improving. Being innovative before the others too.

Nyulak · 10-13-2008, 02:15 PM

lol. Even those of us that like the PROcede wish it were cheaper, and on time.

cn555ic · 10-13-2008, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by phattbam

I guess it's the price you pay for a product that keeps improving. Being innovative before the others too.

your right, but the copycat companies are always doing exactly what i said copying a product performance aspects and than selling it for less which always make Vishnu prices seem high!!! It will always be a never ending battle of price for the product, but in the end the Procede reader program justifies the difference in price....But that my OPINION!

phattbam · 10-13-2008, 02:22 PM

Hey I've got the V3, that's what I bought first. I was actually THE 6AT beta tester for it.

lawdude · 10-13-2008, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Nyulak

lol. Even those of us that like the PROcede wish it were cheaper, and on time.

No doubt it'll be on time. No one knows when the time will be, but it'll be on time.

Now if Shiv could be trained to stop setting dates . . . nahhh; it'll never happen.

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10-11-2008, 12:49 PM	#112
phattbam Major General 181 Rep 5,817 Posts Drives: '17 Protonic Blue i3 REx Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: sf area iTrader: (21)	I'm not trying to be an ass here, but at least Shiv gave us a little info that he and the team are working on a new software update. He could have just dropped the bomb on us and released it when it's done. But instead he wanted to keep us up to date with his work. I'm just as anxious as everyone else but when you keep badgering the guy and expect that to speed things up, it's really slowing him down as he replies to the threads and works on tinkering the bugs out of the maps and such. Just think if he never mentioned V3.1 would we have 6 pages of "where is it?" "today's wednesday it's now friday, saturday" come on now. just relax and it'll be out sooner than later. He's listening to our opinions and suggestions, he's adding more options to our maps be greatful for that. /end rant[flame suit on]
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10-11-2008, 11:03 PM	#114
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10-12-2008, 02:18 AM	#116
Tuned335i Major 24 Rep 1,310 Posts Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: World of Torque iTrader: (0)	Jesus. Some of you people act like waiting for updates is the primary driving force in your life. Have you got so little going on in your lives that you live and die by whether Shiv gets the new update out on exactly the date he was hoping for? It sure seems like it from some of your posts. I don't know about you guys, but with everything else going on in the world right now, waiting for an upgrade to make my $50K toy even more fun to play with is pretty insignificant in the grand scheme of things.
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10-13-2008, 12:33 AM	#118
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10-13-2008, 07:50 AM	#121
rdsport323 Captain 54 Rep 879 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: OC, CA iTrader: (0)	With all those user adjustables, aren't you taking a big risk by entrusting your customers to be able to use proper values? I can imagine the customer service nightmare if one person puts a 99 in a box instead of a 9, and all hell breaks loose, or did you guys build a fail-safe option where you can't go above a pre-selected max/min?... What if someone enters max values for all the adjustables, and then a month later his car blows up... As great as having the option to set your own values, I would simply just trust the tuners values and be happy with it.
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10-13-2008, 12:02 PM	#124
Kbueno Lieutenant Colonel 101 Rep 1,712 Posts Drives: F82 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: California iTrader: (5)	Shiv has indicated he has made it idiot-proof, but the proof is in the pudding.
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10-13-2008, 12:29 PM	#125
rismo Captain 81 Rep 911 Posts Drives: BMW E92 335 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Europe iTrader: (0)	keep it free.... and guys let Shiv do his work! He did a great job sofar.... He is helpfull and sometimes you just need some more time to do a good job.... My porsche friends are heavily annoyed with him ;-)
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10-13-2008, 02:13 PM	#127
cn555ic 462 Rep 18,331 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: US iTrader: (6)	its has definately been nice finally to see less and less post about Vishnu having problems...Now the trolls can only chime in and bash only the price of the Procede!!!
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10-13-2008, 02:15 PM	#129
Nyulak Captain 29 Rep 957 Posts Drives: 2022 X3 M40i Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: SheffVill, OH iTrader: (4) Garage List 2009 BMW 535xi [10.00]	lol. Even those of us that like the PROcede wish it were cheaper, and on time.
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10-13-2008, 02:22 PM	#131
phattbam Major General 181 Rep 5,817 Posts Drives: '17 Protonic Blue i3 REx Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: sf area iTrader: (21)	Hey I've got the V3, that's what I bought first. I was actually THE 6AT beta tester for it.
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