N54 water pump failure.

M5Rlz · 04-30-2013, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by cramp

Add me to the list. Driving on the Parkway. Got the yellow light, got the red light warning stuck on the road. Had to have it flatbedded to the dealership. Having the waterpump and thermo replaced as we speak. $1500!! I got 59,000K on the car. Seems like 60K is the magic number for these to crap out. Totally sucks. I am out of warranty. $hit out of luck I guess. Thanks BMW!

I'm at 56 and its still running... I guess I should start keeping the AP in the trunk so if it dies I can remove the flash lol.

joec500 · 04-30-2013, 01:29 PM

I pro-actively replaced mine at 65k miles. When examining the original pump, it looked great. I was speaking with my tech, and he mentioned that the more you sit in stop and go traffic, the sooner these pumps fail, also obviously the hotter the climate, but if you do mostly freeway and not too much stop and go, the pumps last many more miles.

He mentioned when he opened up failed pumps, the majority of the failures are caused by a seal around the electronics failing and allowing coolant to flow over the circuit boards causing failure. My guess is they use a similar seal that's used for the oil filter housing, which also tend to start leaking around 50-60k miles.

Continue5 · 04-30-2013, 03:05 PM

63k right now on original waterpump and still alive... the car's only been tuned the last 10k, I would imagine the waterpump wears quicker when tuned..

jzepeda · 04-30-2013, 03:21 PM

89,563 left me in the middle of an intersection...... I just order all the parts from ecs tuning best deal I could find. I will be replacing it this weekend. I'll start a new thread with my experience of the process.

Thanks,
Jorge

F3thirty5 · 05-01-2013, 01:39 PM

So, like I said earlier, my waterpump failure left me dead on the parkway. I got the car back yesterday. $1468 total. Replaced the thermostat too. I was out of warranty so I was f'd. Car was back to normal today on my way to work. Also had them perform the battery cable recall.

GoRomeo · 05-01-2013, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by joec500

I pro-actively replaced mine at 65k miles. When examining the original pump, it looked great. I was speaking with my tech, and he mentioned that the more you sit in stop and go traffic, the sooner these pumps fail, also obviously the hotter the climate, but if you do mostly freeway and not too much stop and go, the pumps last many more miles.

He mentioned when he opened up failed pumps, the majority of the failures are caused by a seal around the electronics failing and allowing coolant to flow over the circuit boards causing failure. My guess is they use a similar seal that's used for the oil filter housing, which also tend to start leaking around 50-60k miles.

Thanks for sharing!
This makes a lot of sense in my case. I do 90% highway and 10% city. I am at 104k miles no issues with my WP as of yet.

joec500 · 05-01-2013, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GoRomeo

Thanks for sharing!
This makes a lot of sense in my case. I do 90% highway and 10% city. I am at 104k miles no issues with my WP as of yet.

*KNOCK ON WOOD* you might consider pro-actively replacing yours before you end up stranded on the side of the road!

GoRomeo · 05-01-2013, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by joec500

*KNOCK ON WOOD* you might consider pro-actively replacing yours before you end up stranded on the side of the road!

yeah man I know Indeed. Knock on wood!!

I should start shopping around for my WP and thermostat too. I have a BMW tech friend which has helped me for years with other BMW cars I had in the past. I should call him and ask him to come and help me to change it. The only thing is that doing it in my garage will be hard and messy unless we do it in a shop.

chaslee · 05-01-2013, 02:59 PM

My went out just before hitting 70K. I was going to work on the pump/tstat myself, got the parts online for $553 including shipping, but a indy shop nearby wanted only $240 for labor. I figured that was money well spent.

techwhiz · 05-07-2013, 07:15 PM

76k on my car. Water pump failed yesterday about 3 miles from home. Was able to limp and coast home. That is, let it cool. Go 1/4 mile, repeat. Note: since pump is electric, turning on heater doesn't help cool the engine........ Anyway, engine fine. Under CPO for another year. Pump will cost me $50. So far if you add the pump they have done $6500+ in recall and warranty. 2 fuel pumps, full set of new style injectors, plugs, crank sensor, O2 sensors, ....

lukasbmw · 05-07-2013, 07:57 PM

Mine went out at 44k miles.

Car is a 2008 335i coupe.

Shop told me that these things fail all the time.

Tommeh · 05-07-2013, 09:39 PM

The water pump went out in my 08 135i at around 78,000 Miles. I was in another state and cost me about 800$ from a real sketchy shop, because BMW wanted 1600$$ lol...

*PS check your oil housing. If you have oil coming from it replace the seal. I found out that my seal was bad, and little pieces of rubber where messing up the water pump.

Toda Party · 05-07-2013, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by techwhiz

76k on my car. Water pump failed yesterday about 3 miles from home. Was able to limp and coast home. That is, let it cool. Go 1/4 mile, repeat. Note: since pump is electric, turning on heater doesn't help cool the engine........ Anyway, engine fine. Under CPO for another year. Pump will cost me $50. So far if you add the pump they have done $6500+ in recall and warranty. 2 fuel pumps, full set of new style injectors, plugs, crank sensor, O2 sensors, ....

CPO FTW / BMW "reliability" FTL

Disguistede90owner · 05-07-2013, 10:07 PM

that looks like a pain in the A

Fun w/N54 · 06-12-2013, 12:31 AM

Add my 2009 to the list yesterday

At dealer now and thankful for ext warranty. Dealer not doing t-stat at same time, thought it was a kit and standard practice to do both at same time?

WI car, Jan 09 build, with 54k miles, so not sure the duty cycle theory applies to this failure as it's colder here than in other parts of the country.

BoostedE90 · 06-12-2013, 08:29 AM

Put mine on the list. Just over 69k. My car is a 08 (11/07 build). Replaced under CPO and same deal as Fun w/N54. The dealer replaced the water pump but not the thermostat. SA said that the thermostat checked out ok so they could not replace it under CPO but I could pay to have it replaced.

F80M · 06-15-2013, 12:30 AM

Got 2E81 and 2E82 codes today on my 08 N54 E92.

Water pump died, fan was on full-time, car went limp mode and shutted down with stance status in the middle of Los Angeles freeway traffic jam ...

19marshall84 · 06-15-2013, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by roadkillrob

They are not fun to replace, but normally you just do them from the bottom and you don't need 8 hrs, 3hrs with decent mechanical skills would be a better estimate.

Indeed! I just did mine this morning with a jack and jack stands on the damn garage floor in 2 and a half hours.... I don't know what the hell that guy was doing...? But it was the wrong way!

turbobird14 · 06-15-2013, 10:00 PM

66k miles on my 07 and it went poop. ECStuning just hooked me up

F80M · 06-15-2013, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 91Octane

Got 2E81 and 2E82 codes today on my 08 N54 E92.

Water pump died, fan was on full-time, car went limp mode and shutted down with stance status in the middle of Los Angeles freeway traffic jam ...

Update: just got the car back from dealer. It was covered under 2 years extended warranty plan ...

TenshiWingusu · 06-15-2013, 10:52 PM

Add mine... 2007 Xi 85k
Started losing coolant, about a reservoir a week for 4 weeks. Hot and cold pressure tests were fine, BMW told me to piss off. Then one morning all my coolant was under my car instead of in it... housing shattered I guess? CPO covered the replacement .

kavadarci · 07-23-2013, 10:01 AM

To the original poster.
I have turbo waste gate rattle from the front turbo.

You show a shot of the front turbo, can you remove it easily once you get there?
How long does it take you to remove the front?
is there a DIY or steps to follow?

My water pump was replaced too as it had a crack,
These cars are just nightmare to maintain,
People do preventative parts replacement, what a bunch of bull.

Thank you.

04-30-2013, 01:29 PM	#112
joec500 Brigadier General 133 Rep 3,049 Posts Drives: it has 4 wheels Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (11)	I pro-actively replaced mine at 65k miles. When examining the original pump, it looked great. I was speaking with my tech, and he mentioned that the more you sit in stop and go traffic, the sooner these pumps fail, also obviously the hotter the climate, but if you do mostly freeway and not too much stop and go, the pumps last many more miles. He mentioned when he opened up failed pumps, the majority of the failures are caused by a seal around the electronics failing and allowing coolant to flow over the circuit boards causing failure. My guess is they use a similar seal that's used for the oil filter housing, which also tend to start leaking around 50-60k miles. __________________ 2007 E92 6MT SGM: MusicarNW Level 2, Procede Rev 2.5, FFTEC/Vishnu LPFP with Flexfuel Sensor and Flash, M3 Offset V701's, WaveTrac LSD, Michelin PSS, Downpipes, M3 Control Arms, TCKline D/A Suspension, LCI Tail lights, Lux AE's, ER Charge Pipe, DCI's, Mtech Front and Rear, M3 Sideskirts, HPF Stage 1 Clutch
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04-30-2013, 03:05 PM	#113
Continue5 Private First Class 4 Rep 133 Posts Drives: 5-thirty-5 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Chicago iTrader: (1)	63k right now on original waterpump and still alive... the car's only been tuned the last 10k, I would imagine the waterpump wears quicker when tuned..
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04-30-2013, 03:21 PM	#114
jzepeda Lieutenant 29 Rep 587 Posts Drives: 07 e92 Dinan Stage 2 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: West Covina iTrader: (12)	89,563 left me in the middle of an intersection...... I just order all the parts from ecs tuning best deal I could find. I will be replacing it this weekend. I'll start a new thread with my experience of the process. Thanks, Jorge
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05-01-2013, 01:39 PM	#115
F3thirty5 Private First Class 9 Rep 193 Posts Drives: 08 335 XI Coupe Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Long Island New York iTrader: (9)	Water Pump So, like I said earlier, my waterpump failure left me dead on the parkway. I got the car back yesterday. $1468 total. Replaced the thermostat too. I was out of warranty so I was f'd. Car was back to normal today on my way to work. Also had them perform the battery cable recall.
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05-01-2013, 02:59 PM	#119
chaslee New Member 1 Rep 28 Posts Drives: '07 E90 335i Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Charlotte, NC iTrader: (0)	My went out just before hitting 70K. I was going to work on the pump/tstat myself, got the parts online for $553 including shipping, but a indy shop nearby wanted only $240 for labor. I figured that was money well spent.
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05-07-2013, 07:15 PM	#120
techwhiz Colonel 454 Rep 2,973 Posts Drives: e90 335i Sedan - Arctic Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Bay Area, Ca iTrader: (4)	76k on my car. Water pump failed yesterday about 3 miles from home. Was able to limp and coast home. That is, let it cool. Go 1/4 mile, repeat. Note: since pump is electric, turning on heater doesn't help cool the engine........ Anyway, engine fine. Under CPO for another year. Pump will cost me $50. So far if you add the pump they have done $6500+ in recall and warranty. 2 fuel pumps, full set of new style injectors, plugs, crank sensor, O2 sensors, ....
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05-07-2013, 07:57 PM	#121
lukasbmw Beach Bum 98 Rep 210 Posts Drives: 2010 328i / 2005 C55 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: San Diego CA / Phoenix AZ iTrader: (1)	Mine went out at 44k miles. Car is a 2008 335i coupe. Shop told me that these things fail all the time. __________________ 2018 340i - lease returned 2008 335i - sold 2006 SL55 - Sold 2004 SL600 - Sold 1999 540i - Sold
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05-07-2013, 09:39 PM	#122
Tommeh Lieutenant 60 Rep 481 Posts Drives: 96 BMW M3 & 16 GMC Canyon Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Washington iTrader: (0)	The water pump went out in my 08 135i at around 78,000 Miles. I was in another state and cost me about 800$ from a real sketchy shop, because BMW wanted 1600$$ lol... *PS check your oil housing. If you have oil coming from it replace the seal. I found out that my seal was bad, and little pieces of rubber where messing up the water pump.
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05-07-2013, 10:07 PM	#124
Disguistede90owner New Member 3 Rep 25 Posts Drives: e90 Join Date: May 2013 Location: DFW iTrader: (0)	that looks like a pain in the A
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06-12-2013, 12:31 AM	#125
Fun w/N54 Lieutenant 40 Rep 592 Posts Drives: '11 E92 335is AW/CR/DCT Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: WI iTrader: (2)	Add my 2009 to the list yesterday At dealer now and thankful for ext warranty. Dealer not doing t-stat at same time, thought it was a kit and standard practice to do both at same time? WI car, Jan 09 build, with 54k miles, so not sure the duty cycle theory applies to this failure as it's colder here than in other parts of the country.
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06-12-2013, 08:29 AM	#126
BoostedE90 Lieutenant Colonel 60 Rep 1,690 Posts Drives: e90 335i 6MT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tampa/Gainesville, FL iTrader: (5)	Put mine on the list. Just over 69k. My car is a 08 (11/07 build). Replaced under CPO and same deal as Fun w/N54. The dealer replaced the water pump but not the thermostat. SA said that the thermostat checked out ok so they could not replace it under CPO but I could pay to have it replaced.
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06-15-2013, 12:30 AM	#127
F80M Major 90 Rep 1,456 Posts Drives: M Fap Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: in your rear view mirror... iTrader: (2)	Got 2E81 and 2E82 codes today on my 08 N54 E92. Water pump died, fan was on full-time, car went limp mode and shutted down with stance status in the middle of Los Angeles freeway traffic jam ...
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06-15-2013, 10:00 PM	#129
turbobird14 Private 6 Rep 59 Posts Drives: 07 335i Sedan Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Monroe, MI iTrader: (1)	66k miles on my 07 and it went poop. ECStuning just hooked me up
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06-15-2013, 10:52 PM	#131
TenshiWingusu Private First Class 10 Rep 105 Posts Drives: '07 335xi Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: United States iTrader: (0)	Add mine... 2007 Xi 85k Started losing coolant, about a reservoir a week for 4 weeks. Hot and cold pressure tests were fine, BMW told me to piss off. Then one morning all my coolant was under my car instead of in it... housing shattered I guess? CPO covered the replacement . __________________ Vishnu PROcede 2.5SE, BMS DCI, Evolution Racewerk Charge Pipe, HKS SSQV4
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07-23-2013, 10:01 AM	#132
kavadarci Lieutenant 46 Rep 568 Posts Drives: 335xi Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: canada iTrader: (0)	To the original poster. I have turbo waste gate rattle from the front turbo. You show a shot of the front turbo, can you remove it easily once you get there? How long does it take you to remove the front? is there a DIY or steps to follow? My water pump was replaced too as it had a crack, These cars are just nightmare to maintain, People do preventative parts replacement, what a bunch of bull. Thank you.
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