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      12-20-2010, 10:04 PM   #111
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HEre is an example of a Race gas tune and similar power on Race gas..

PROcede v4 Autotuning
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From 5500 to 7000 its more like 60+hp and on 450hp car its like 90hp on top.. Do you know what that looks like in car lengths thru 4 gears or 5 or 6 gears on the highway.. I dont know about you but for 2400 Ill take 5-6 car lengths over a similar modded 335.. Depends on how hardcore you are about being FASTER than the guy next to you..
you got any baslines on your/this dyno, because that power for the stockers sucks. Not even breaking 400whp on race gas? people have broken 400 on 91 octane.

Nevermind, didnt read that it was a jb3 on pump gas vs a procede on race gas comparo.
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      12-20-2010, 10:06 PM   #112
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Any chance that you or a customer will be testing this out at PBIR?
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Oh, sorry, I didnt read all 5 pages. But that is a pretty good price, will these be continued or is there a limited quantity? Thanks.
We have a good supply but we do require cores for every order.. Thanks!!

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Any chance that you or a customer will be testing this out at PBIR?
I will discuss it with this customer.. Our DCT 335 will be what we plan to use at PBIR for consistent runs..

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      12-20-2010, 10:10 PM   #115
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same boost.

Lost marine also has something that looks similar to this at the same 19ish psi.
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      12-20-2010, 10:20 PM   #116
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Also, I have a feeling you can get more than 450whp out of these turbos. I guess only future dynos will tell, but personally, I am excited about these.
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      12-20-2010, 10:21 PM   #117
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Doesnt the ASR turbo kit go for around 5k though? These are only 2400~ seems like a pretty good deal to me.
5000.00 and still havent seen 1 good pass out of that car.. Seems like a great deal to me..

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      12-20-2010, 10:23 PM   #118
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Also, I have a feeling you can get more than 450whp out of these turbos. I guess only future dynos will tell, but personally, I am excited about these.
Correct, We didnt spend all that much time with the car.. Look at the dyno pulls.. less than 20 of them on pump and race gas total.. The car needed plugs and a larger Methanol nozzle.. there will be more results just sit tight guys.. Nobody is forcing anyone to buy these.. If i sell 2 or 200 I dont care.. Buy them when you feel comfortable and see 20 threads with them and their results.. Thanks!!
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RB's on a bullshit mickey mouse tune, aka jb3.
I would like to to see what a procede tuned by shiv can do to his car, however he hates shiv and rather use a boost control, that doesnt control boost very well
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yea its called traction my friend. I don't have upgraded turbos, and if i do switch turbos, it certainly won't be with rewheeled/clipped stockers.

Start my own thread? Didn't you just say all replies are welcome? no reason to start thread as this has been around for some time now.

You want RB twin dynos being that you don't like ASR? Those rip your dyno apart as well.
There is no need to bash these turbos just yet. Everything has to start somewhere, they can only go uphill from here. But I do agree that we should wait for more results before we make any decisions. Have hope bro.
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RB's on a bullshit mickey mouse tune, aka jb3.
I would like to to see what a procede tuned by shiv can do to his car, however he hates shiv and rather use a boost control, that doesnt control boost very well
Awesome power curve... again with NO BOOST PLOT.. 2.5psi more they claim..
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Mike, this was with a jb3 on the RB turbos with sucky boost control, nowhere close to proceede's (jb4 will fix that, had to say that so this doesn't turn into a different type of thread we all have come to love)...what you're seeing there is just an example of peak power, bad example I agree as there's no boost log shown...

Clap135 can you attach the jb3 boost log if you have it from this run? Once you see it you'll see what I mean by sucky boost control...

RBs ARE stock "appearing", a few of us just got them, I'm still waiting on my set to arrive in mail..
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      12-20-2010, 10:33 PM   #123
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Mike, this was with a jb3 on the RB turbos with sucky boost control, nowhere close to proceede's (jb4 will fix that, had to say that so this doesn't turn into a different type of thread we all have come to love)...what you're seeing there is just an example of peak power, bad example I agree as there's no boost log shown...

Clap135 can you attach the jb3 boost log if you have it from this run? Once you see it you'll see what I mean by sucky boost control...

RBs ARE stock "appearing", a few of us just got them, I'm still waiting on my set to arrive in mail..
Ok nice.. someone with a little sense to post all the data clearly and info rather than a KID with a dyno chart just running his mouth non stop with no info provided..

What i see is a full pull 480hp with more boost.. Nobody yet knows what these turbos will do with more boost.. The car was breaking up.. we will soon see..

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RB's have consistently put down the most power of the bunch. If the cost of entry ($2800 + core + install) wasn't so high, I'd give these serious consideration out of all the offerings. Clap's point is valid; the results are disappointing when compared to the RB turbo results.
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Mike, this was with a jb3 on the RB turbos with sucky boost control, nowhere close to proceede's (jb4 will fix that, had to say that so this doesn't turn into a different type of thread we all have come to love)...what you're seeing there is just an example of peak power, bad example I agree as there's no boost log shown...

Clap135 can you attach the jb3 boost log if you have it from this run? Once you see it you'll see what I mean by sucky boost control...

RBs ARE stock "appearing", a few of us just got them, I'm still waiting on my set to arrive in mail..
Do you mind me asking the cost of the RB's? AWD seems to be the most price affective so far, correct me if I am wrong.
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yea its called a bullshit tune, damn dude, you got a search button or must I show you everything?


you hit 19ish, they hit 21ish? I hope 2 psi will bump you by 60whp, lol 80mm turbo? oh wait
You showed me plenty.. Thank you.. Now if you dont want to buy them thats fine.. I appreciate all the info.. Take care..

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RB's have consistently put down the most power of the bunch. If the cost of entry ($2800 + core + install) wasn't so high, I'd give these serious consideration out of all the offerings. Clap's point is valid; the results are disappointing when compared to the RB turbo results.
THE RB are on MORE boost how can you say these are disappointing.. they are running 18.5 psi on top and making 450.. Not 21psi and on different cars and different dynos..

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THE RB are on MORE boost how can you say these are disappointing.. they are running 18.5 psi on top and making 450.. Not 21psi and on different cars and different dynos..

Mike
21 psi? Not really, try 20, that is a map sensor reading, which reads high.
Hes got a baseline on that dyno, didnt even break 300 with all his mods, then he plug his "tune" in if you want to call it that and came up with those numbers before starting to misfire just like you guys.
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I just spoke with the owner of the car Brandon who says the car is NIGHT AND DAY a new car.. He is going to leave us the car again next week and we are going to swap Meth nozzles and turn up the boost a little more and see where it goes on the new plugs setup properly.. Ill keep everyone posted.. Thanks!!

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I just spoke with the owner of the car Brandon who says the car is NIGHT AND DAY a new car.. He is going to leave us the car again next week and we are going to swap Meth nozzles and turn up the boost a little more and see where it goes on the new plugs setup properly.. Ill keep everyone posted.. Thanks!!

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Any chance of getting one pull with no meth?
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Any chance of getting one pull with no meth?
You mean on PUMP alone?? or on Race gas?? The meth is just there to add the cooling factor at this point.. The nozzle is so small it helps slightly with knock suppression but nothing we could rely on alone at higher boost levels..

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You mean on PUMP alone?? or on Race gas?? The meth is just there to add the cooling factor at this point.. The nozzle is so small it helps slightly with knock suppression but nothing we could rely on alone at higher boost levels..

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One run on just 93, I dont know if it would be worth the time though. I've always been a little hesitant to install meth.
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