[Golddog]

Originally Posted by Thundernight

Congrats on finding a car! I remember when you said that you were giving up your search earlier in the year. Glad that everything is working out in the end!

You mention the B58. Is there a change happening to this engine in 2023, or are you simply referring to choosing the 6cyl over the 230i?

Thanks for the kind words and yes, I was referring to choosing the 6cyl over the 230i.

The difference in price was not bad and I did not want to regret not getting the 6. The 230 is an excellent vehicle to say the least.

[Golddog]

Originally Posted by BobHen

The Alpha Romeo Giulia exterior and interior are also pretty sweet. Real dials for the tachometer and speedometer and integrated screens into the dash and those column paddle shifters, etc. Some reviewers have called the sedan's exterior downright sexy.

I test drove a Giulia and it had the best sporty handling of any car I have driven in that class including Jag, Audi and BMW. But it only had 280 HP and I wanted more (within my budget) this time around.

The 2022 BMW M240i just hit it out of the park.

Bob

I loved my 2021 AR Giulia Ti Sport, especially the green, but when we added a new pup to the mix I wanted something that I would be able to carry a dog in. That's why I chose the Stelvio, Rosso Etna, because the Giulia was such a great driver, as is the Stelvio only on a larger scale. Can't wait to add the M240i to the stable.

[AA]

I honestly like the curved display; it looks unique and futuristic. Also, according to a leaked picture, it seems that even the new S650 Mustang will get widescreen panels similar to the ID8.

[Golddog]

I can see these type of screens on electric cars or luxury cars but in a sports car it just looks odd to me, especially in the mustang pic. Just my opinion though.

[AA]

Originally Posted by Golddog

I can see these type of screens on electric cars or luxury cars but in a sports car it just looks odd to me, especially in the mustang pic. Just my opinion though.

I kind of agree. New things may seem odd in the beginning but then we get used to them as they become more prevalent. I remember when Apple released the iPhone X with a notched display which was criticized by many people. But then guess what happened?! A domino effect. Almost every phone now has a notch, and it became a new normal. The thing with technology is that whenever a new thing is released, it immediately outdates the previous generation. Another example, yesterday I updated my phone to iOS 16, and I honestly didn't like the new interface that much. Will I downgrade to iOS 15? the answer is NO, I wouldn't, because Apple channeled their efforts to make it more advanced and secure compared to iOS 15. That’s again the way I see the transition from iD7 to iD8.

[Thundernight]

Originally Posted by Golddog

I loved my 2021 AR Giulia Ti Sport, especially the green, but when we added a new pup to the mix I wanted something that I would be able to carry a dog in. That's why I chose the Stelvio, Rosso Etna, because the Giulia was such a great driver, as is the Stelvio only on a larger scale. Can't wait to add the M240i to the stable.

If it means anything to you, I just traveled with my 70lb black lab in the back of my M240. Plenty of space back there. The only challenge is getting the dog in and out..

[XC3LLR8]

Sadly that Mustang's screen looks better integrated than the iD8.

[Rag9000]

I don’t mind the Mustang’s screen but if you’re going to go with this ultra modern screen look, why use such rounded corners? It looks like an iPhone from 2008. It also looks kinked in the middle rather than curved. iD8 looks better IMO

[XC3LLR8]

Originally Posted by Rag9000

I don't mind the Mustang's screen but if you're going to go with this ultra modern screen look, why use such rounded corners? It looks like an iPhone from 2008. It also looks kinked in the middle rather than curved. iD8 looks better IMO

Are you saying the screen from the new iD8 looks better than the Mustang's, or the software?

If you're referring to the screen, then quite frankly BMW should be ashamed. There's zero integration with the dash…ZERO.

[Fernando_380]

I do like the new mustang and the new displays but the BMW screens look much nicer and have slimmer bezels.

[soflacarguy]

Originally Posted by AA

I remember when Apple released the iPhone X with a notched display which was criticized by many people. But then guess what happened?!

What happened is that with each generation after the X, Apple made the notch smaller because people dislike the notch.

With the iPhone 14 pro release the notch evolves to "dynamic island." Let's see how that works out - Im genuinely curious.

That being said,ID8 might be good, and a curved high res screen might be nice - but plopping it on the dashboard with a "kickstand"however, is hard to defend.

[Ezio]

Originally Posted by XC3LLR8

Are you saying the screen from the new iD8 looks better than the Mustang's, or the software?

If you're referring to the screen, then quite frankly BMW should be ashamed. There's zero integration with the dash…ZERO.

The mustang was created to have this screen. BMW refreshed the current design layout and added a new screen. That`s why it appears to not fit as good. I do think the actual screen looks better than the mustang but it probably cannot match the integration of the mustang.

[azuki]

Originally Posted by soflacarguy

What happened is that with each generation after the X, Apple made the notch smaller because people dislike the notch.

? thats entirely false. since the initial iphone x, apple notch size remained largely unchanged until the iphone 13, or 4 years later- where they shrunk it by 20%. iphone 14 then took the dynamic island with the cutout and the subpixel anti-aliasing.



as with changes, companies have to change, or they become blackberries and oldsmobiles. do you think apple would have be where they are today if they just kept with the ipod and not notice the growing popularity of phones with embedded mp3 players? of course not, that is why they released the phone+ipod (iphone).

car manufacturers don't care if the 1% whiner/boomer cries about the changes. they focus on the next generation of buyers.

[soflacarguy]

Originally Posted by azuki

? thats entirely false. since the initial iphone x, apple notch size remained largely unchanged until the iphone 13, or 4 years later- where they shrunk it by 20%. iphone 14 then took the dynamic island with the cutout and the subpixel anti-aliasing.



as with changes, companies have to change, or they become blackberries and oldsmobiles. they don't care if the 1% whiner/boomer cries about the changes. they focus on the next generation of buyers.

The boomer reference makes no sense at all. Im comparing notches (undesirable) to the dash integration (also undesirable).

This isn't quite Apples to Apples no pun intended.

Or is it?

Apple always intentionally leaves room for improvement to give consumers a reason to buy the next gen, even when changes are minor.

Perhaps BMW half assed the screen to dash integration to setup a future improvement for the LCI.

[MmmmmM2]

Originally Posted by AA

I honestly like the curved display; it looks unique and futuristic. Also, according to a leaked picture, it seems that even the new S650 Mustang will get widescreen panels similar to the ID8.

I'm no fan of Mustangs (although I've owned 3), but that looks pretty darn good.

[meyer1son]

Sport mode!

[azuki]

Originally Posted by meyer1son

Sport mode!

holy shit that looks awesome!!!! <3 ID8

[curtdragon]

Everyone’s hating on it and haven’t seen it in action. I pretty much said this earlier in the thread. Larger screens give you more customization options

[iniasix]

Originally Posted by meyer1son

Sport mode!

that looks amazing! makes me feel a little better about ID8.

[azuki]

Originally Posted by curtdragon

Everyone’s hating on it and haven’t seen it in action. I pretty much said this earlier in the thread. Larger screens give you more customization options

the only ppl hating on it are 2022 owners and people that can't adapt

[soflacarguy]

Originally Posted by azuki

the only ppl hating on it are 2022 owners and people that can't adapt

False. Most people want new technology. The issue we have is the integration. I have a '22 G42 and I also have a deposit on a '23 G87. So I'll be the owner of both variants.

Anyway here are some alternative integrations with the latest tech in future high end vehicles to help get the point across.

[Golddog]

I have a 22 being delivered next week. I don't hate it (ID8). But as Soflacarguy said, the integration of it sucks. It looks like an afterthought. I honestly could care less what version I have as I am more interested in driving than playing with a screen. They could've easily took the current dash and configured these screens into them. It all comes down to being cheap and making things easy to replace.

It also comes down to personal preference and no one should be called out as haters or non-adapter if they prefer the simplicity and cohesiveness of the ID7 dash layout.